Coast Nightsnake (Hypsiglena ochrorhyncha ochrorhyncha)

Created: November 15th, 2007 - 10:54 PM
Last Modified: November 27th, 2011 - 04:52 PM Entered by: Brian Hinds-AKA Fundad
Record 7547

Country: United States		State: California	County: San Diego County	Time: 2001-04-14 00:00:00
Qty: 1	Age: Adult	Sex: Female	Method: Rock flipping	Habitat: Pine Rocky
Body Temperature: -----		Air Temperature: -----	Ground Temperature: -----	Humidity: -----
Sky Conditions: Light rain		Moon Phase: -----	Elevation: 5500.00ft	Barometric Pressure: -----

Notes

All 3 found under this rock... One Female and two males.. Its not uncommon to find multiple males with one female in the mountains, yet I have never seen this in other habitats where the night snake is found. This record is for the Large Female which are larger than males in most cases

Vouchers

Comments

Posted by Brian Hinds-AKA Fundad on Jun 30, 2010 at 10:39 PM

last i checked ssars was confused too..

Posted by Jonathan Hakim on Jun 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM

You're right - I'm not sure where Gary came up with that.

Are far as nomenclature goes though, I thought the agreement was that we would just go with SSAR, and I like that idea better so that everything is in order instead of being really confusing (especially for newbies who don't know how to label it). I think it's clearer when everything that's the same subspecies has the same subspecies name being used.

Posted by Brian Hinds-AKA Fundad on Jun 30, 2010 at 09:21 PM

Its not on the concern list anywhere I have seen or see. It is also not protected. I have no Idea where Gary got that conclusion. Maybe I
am missing something??

There is whole big debate over taxonomy of this snake, and Jeff and I have it listed as the OLD Taxonomy to bring attention to it..

Question is what species/sub species is the night snake now?? Depends on who you ask..

Posted by Jonathan Hakim on Jun 30, 2010 at 08:40 PM

I got it from here - look at the very very bottom:

http://www.californiaherps.com/info/herpinglaws.html

And since H.o.klauberi is in the database as "San Diego Nightsnake", I'm assuming that H.o.ochrorhyncha would have to be a different (probably Mexican) subspecies.

Posted by Brian Hinds-AKA Fundad on Jun 30, 2010 at 07:55 PM

Where did you see the night snake on their list??

Posted by Jonathan Hakim on Jun 30, 2010 at 07:04 PM

Under current nomenclature, should this be Hypsiglena ochrorhyncha klauberi?

p.s. - I marked it because I just noticed that H.o. klauberi is considered a sensitive species by CA DF&G, so it'd be important to get these listed under the correct SSAR name.